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Can we use for same project what ever available new pi board?

Beelink never again!

During the shortages I went with a secondhand HP Prodesk Mini as per ExplainingComputers recommendation for a Pi alternative, and for a similar price to these you get a 6th or 7th gen i5/i7, up to 16GB RAM, a full 4 lane NVMe M.2 and a lot of extras like USB-C ports, DisplayPort++, and even 2.5 gigabit ethernet upgrades. You can even swap out the CPU for the non-T version and put something like an i7-7700 in them with the 90W power adapter. So much power for the same price as these, so that's another option for a Pi alternative.

Like millions of others, I got into Raspberry Pi long ago (Pi2) via Emulation, and I had great fun until Pi 5 was released. Whilst still a fantastic SBC, after my own testing, it simply can't compete with x86 emulation anymore. I have jumped to the GMKtec G5 N97, which, Like the Pi, this Micro NUC is super tiny, and the N97 CPU/DDR5/1200mHZ graphics beat my N100 for speed and graphics for the same price. Now, once more, I'm having a blast with emulation again.

On the GPIO pins the UP Board has released the "UP 7000" SBC with a N100 (or N50) onboard, and a 40--Pin GPIO. It also has faster DDR5 RAM as well (in fact some N100 Mini PCs have DDR5 too). In the end though it really is all a big "depends" answer. For me HTPC, Emulation, and regular IoT stuff makes the N100 a go to for the price.

nice nonbinary cabling!

Bough a mini pc, n100, 32gb ram 1 tb ssd, 2x2.5 rj45. €200. Very usefull. Gonna buy another one to use as a usb audio to dante box. That way I can get a setup for 1500 with more utility than the cheapest dante mixer at 2300

This is a great NAS project! Just wanted to know what if my OS memory card got faulty/corrupt

I have the T8 Firebat with ddr5 16gb 4800Mhz. In bios you set it to 4800Mhz and increase TDP from 15w stock to 30w. It cost less than the Pi5 mentioned here..Its faster at browsing than my 14900k on 1000mbit cat6. It must be something with the browser optimizing for this mini pc making browsing lightning fast. If you blink you wont see a new page loaded. The bios is pretty advanced so you can adjust how fast the cpu will ramp up its frequency. It also accepted undervolting so I can run turbo speeds for longer. The included copper heatpipe onboard is so much better than any of those poorly made you see on the Pi, and its included rofl. The network coverage isnt superb out of the box, but if you loosen the 1 of the 2 internal sticker wifi antennas inside it can become really good. I mounted each one in vertical plane and horizontal plane inside the housing. Since its just a sticker antenna it was an easy mod. (instead of both beeing parallell on top, I put one vertical on the sidewall). The best thing is that it just works, no insane hassle that some of the Android or Linux gives you.. I had one problem caused by win update, it reinstalled the wrong network driver so I had to redownload the correct one from Realtek site. Other than that it has been working fine.

>Molex connector 🤢

Great share! Thanks! What do you think of the ZimaBlade 7700?

Thanks! Great work! was looking for this.

The DDR5 version of the N100 is up to 30% faster! The only scenario's that the Pi5 makes sense is if a SD card is sufficient and especially if you dont need much memory.

a good, balanced review. well done.

Firefox on Arm runs very poorly. Use any other browser for better video results.

Since Raspberry Pi Foundation have decided to go the way of overpriced and underwhelming desktop PCs, the N100 alternative is very welcome!

I was hoping for SATA ports on the N100 to build a NAS with 3.5" HDD

We can guess from the 1080p playback, but 4K video also works well on the N100 (typically).

Graphics: N100 Everything else: Pi 5

What a great looking Pi!

The only advantage of Pi's nowadays is a really fast GPIO to run LED matrices. Yet you don't need an RPi5 for that and it's still not the best tool for the task.

With the most expensive setup for pi 5, this youtube video is dead on (as of post date)... however, if you go with a cheaper option using most of the prices listed, 60+5+12 and then $5 for sd card you come to $82, roughly half the cost of the above setup with nearly the same capabilities... The pricing on the pi will stay stable (barring more covid induced shortages) whereas the cost of the n100 system is variable and subject to fluctuation. the $82 figure takes into account the situation that exists today, if they ever release a 2 gig model (and there have been hints that they will), that price goes to 40+5+12+5 = $62.... There are a lot of good reasons to buy an n100 computer, x86 compatibility for gaming is really high on my personal list, but many of these comparisons compare the most expensive pi setups with the least expensive pc setups, which can be interesting, but they ignore that the pc setups have hit the bottom of their range and the pi just got started.

N100 is just great and cheap CPU, has 9 pcie 3.0 lanes, so we can get many interesting computers, including this one, Pi5 is just expensive for those features. If we could get 2.5 ETH and m.2 with at least 2x pcie 3.0 lanes this could be far better product. For such comparison n100 is just bit bigger and much better. Rockchip flagship SoC is something that is still cheaper than intel, also much better than pi, in few areas than na n100.

Let’s plain honest: since the last price explosion the pi is not a good price point anymore and even that the raspberry pi market is not exploding right now, no one guarantees that this could happening again. The so called „chip crisis“ was fake or why did the raspberry pi foundation kept products back for OEMs? Yeah artificial limitations I got after all that crap to the good old x86 architecture where I’m not limited to one vendor and his greed. And the other copies of the raspberry pi have been the same mess. And where are talking about 300 bucks each and everyone of them. So each and every intel and amd machine is a better buck for the price. From my servers I got an amd cpu with 16 cores, 16 gig of ram and nvme ssd for 300 bucks each.

I would recommend using Joshua Riek Ubuntu OS instead of the official Orange Pi OS images. It has better GPU support.

Chances are if you just want to mess with GPIO, you already have a PC. Why buy a N100 at all? If the whole point is to have some permanent or semi-permanent something, sure get the PI. But for messing around chances are you already have the PC to do so.

If you don't need GPIO, why bother?

And the ARM SBC competitors aren't much cheaper. The Pi had a market bubble and prices will have to change or..

The small form factor of the pi is what sells it. Corporations can build or put pis into their hardware and it does not take up a lot of space or power, The competition from pis forced intel prices down.

No Android on the PC.

+cost of long term support, software that works and employees that pay taxes and so contribute to my own country (pi5). Not a criticism of the tech comparison, just the price comparison

Let's admit we outgrew RPi. Most got them for cheap tinker projects, maybe a small fraction used GPIO, but they are too limited. Hey, they are still pretty cool, like your first car, but now you know what you need and RPi came too little too late.

Pi 5 is a bad board for any kind of desktop or media center usage. It lacks essential hardware acceleration. N100 all the way. The single 5 volt power input makes me think that is was built specifically with industry in mind, as they can have a super high amperage 5 volt line. Also, industry doesn't need 3.5 mm jacks. This is why it's gone. 2 USB controllers are nice, but the power delivered through them is quite limited for consumer stuff. The only thing it has going for itself hardware-wise is the power efficiency, but the alternatives like RK3588 boards are good too.

Wow did not expect the CPU score to be so close. I would have thought higher CPU and a more mature CPU arch would have given Intel a bigger win.

great design...

The elephant in the room being the $150 Gen7 ProLiant servers you can pick up on fleaBay, with a proper Xeon, tonnes of ram, and more power consumption than an air conditioning unit in a brothel.

The Pi's are great, early adopter starting with the original Pi model A, I have over a dozen Pi's running up to the 4 8G, as the Pi 5 has steadily grown out of the 'acceptable pi price range'. I love my Pi's but I've started buying N100 boards for computing and using more ESP32 microcontrollers for projects.

n100 CPU everyday given its QuickSync video hardware transcoding. It isn’t even close. 😮

Err... also, the N100 is double the price of an RPi 5 from what I can find. Of course you can be faster if you throw more money at your hardware.

Which kind of PC of this size, is the next higher class? Eventually with DisplayPort/s ?

The S12 Pro can be upgraded to 32GB ram

Guitars and computers need cases. Guitar players need lots of chords. A small PC does not 🙂 *Abnormally Small Systems* have three letter acronyms rpi. nuc. bare #ASS me again.

9:13 - I think that hits the nail on the head. I see the resistors for indicating 1/2 GB of RAM on the board... I have to wonder if they're sitting on a 1 or 2 GB Pi 5 model that could be sold for $40 or $45. That would make the low-end Pi 5 a great option and bring back some of the price advantage if you don't need lots of RAM for projects, but want some of the speed or CSI/DSI lane performance of the Pi 5.

Raspberry Pi is starting to lose some of its shine. I rather now get a mini PC running a N100. A N100 CPU is many many times more powerful than even a Rpi 5 s ARM CPU. It can run x86 software. Plus built in hardware transcoding and plenty of I/O options.

I have proxmox running on N100 which is mostly used for arr stack apps and jellyfin. It handles 1 video transcode 4k HDR to SDR or multiple without HDR or lower resolution. Good enough for me.

N100 is very good. Asrock N100M owner, poor pcie support in Linux kernel 6.69. Do not recommend N100M. Recommend N100.

the lack of ARM support is the only issue with the Pi

N100 for the win...

the real problem with rp5 is the price, is cost $50 or $60 it self is a gg buy , all accesories included can reach $150 (RP5 8gb $60, active cooling $5, PowerSupply $20, ssd $40,m.2 port $15 , case $10)

For me the thing I need from a raspberry pi is the I/O pins